NO WORK ON TUESDAY
Larry must have forgotten the CV Q&A posting Criteria
Author: Larry Kall (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)Date: 04-15-08 13:09
I called my Maintenance Company Monday to request that they do some lawn work on Tuesday and was informed that they do not do work near the tennis courts on Tuesday due to a Tennis Court rule. I asked what the rule was and was informed that on Tuesdays there are tennis tournaments and the tennis players do not like the noise of any equipment. I then asked where the rule came from and I was informed that it came from the tennis courts. To say the least I was somewhat amazed at what I was told. In any case I received a call back from my maintenance company that they could indeed come on Tuesday as long as it was after 11 AM when any tournaments would be over.I then advised my maintenance company that our building was not controlled by the tennis courts and I expected them to be there at 9 AM Tuesday to do the required work which they did.MY QUESTION IS -IS THERE SUCH A TUESDAY RULE? WHO HAS THE POWER TO MAKE SUCH A RULE? WHO HAS THE POWER TO ENFORCE SUCH A RULE?
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Larry Kall
04-15-08 13:09
Tuesday, April 15, 2008
Tennis Court Noise
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Hi Larry,
First of all I must ask,
where in the suggested "Appropriate" subjects for the CV Q & A is there any mention of Tennis Court Noise???
Try to remember; Plumbers, Tile People and Places to have High School reunions.
It would be awful if you were Banned for life by the Supreme Potentate!!
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Larry We have our Monthly Board meeting at Poolside on the 4th. Wednesday of the month.
We have asked Seacrest not to trim the bushes during the meeting, as the noise is intolerable.
No special rules, just simple accomodation to circumstances.
no big deal, what possible difference can it make to you if the work is done at 11:00AM vice 9:00AM?"
Dave
The problem is that we who live near the tennis courts were never consulted about the problem, were never told about any problem,were never asked our opinion on whether it could cause some problem for us as neighbors. It appears that this matter was forced upon our service companies by some tennis players acting on their own.
In your example you mention a monthly meeting. In our case this is a weekly thing. You refer to courtesy which is how the matter should have been handled.
My question again is Who set up the rules? Who enforces these rule? To my knowledge there are not weekly tournaments anyway.
Yes the time can make a difference as some of our building officers want to be there when the work is started and prefer early morning.
By the way the airplanes that fly over the tennis courts are much louder than the mowers or trimmers and they have not been banned on Tuesdays.
It is my intention to bring this matter (that we did not know about) to the attention of all the buildings in Somerset for a vote.
It would have been easier if the tennis players had asked for our help rather than the way they went about it. In your case you asked Seacrest, in our case the service companies were told not to show up. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Hi Larry,
Good points all, now who pays the Maintenance Company, your Association or the Tennis players/club?
Seems like this is an easy problem to work out.
Dave
Hi Larry,
There may be more to this matter than meets the eye.
I am advised that there are no Tournaments on Tuesday but that is not important really.
The source of your vexation may be WPRF, who I believe owns the property.
Tom, the Tennis Pro, who is a WPRF employee may have asked WPRF to talk to the Maintenance company and adjust their schedules.
You might want to chat with Anita Cruze about this matter.
Dave
Me thinks evil lurks around every corner of CV
Dave, I have been advised that the DEMAND that the service companies do no work on Tuesday mornings came from some Tennis Players NOT from WPRF.
Hi Larry,
I understand that, but I must reiterate; who pays your maintenance company?
The Tennis Players would appear to have no say in the matter.
Of course, it would be interesting, if it turned out that the maintenance company used by WPRF to landscape the Tennis court property was also used by Your association!!!
Dave
There are at least three different maintenance companies working in the Somerset Area.The company used by WPRF for the tennis courts is not one of them. Each of our Somerset buildings pay their own maintenance company directly.
One of the maintenance companies advised me that they were tired of listening to the complaints from tennis players about the noise so they just worked around the TOURNAMENTS that I now understand do not occur anyway.
I certainly know how to solve the problem but I would appreciate any advice from others.
Larry with all your experience, I would think you should be able to solve this “riddle”.
During some administration, perhaps Kurt’s of Vivian’s, Tennis players, seeking preferential treatment from the folk at UCO, asked for a favor for supporting the Administration. As the Operations Committee feels compelled to “decide for all of us”, they probably requested, at the players and “pro’s request, that the deal be implemented by
WPRF, who is all too anxious to satisfy.
Even today, The President “decried” that the WPRF property MUST display, on one of the 4 TV sets, Channel 63! This edict is mandatory, without ever polling those who use the Hasting equipment. Most watch the news channels, but WHY does the President decry that his opinion is more important than those who pay the bills?
In the Chatham entrance to the Isle area, there is a newly POSTED STOP sign, WHY? None of the more than 180 Resident in this area were polled or even aware of this sign being necessary. WHO decided? You got it…….The folk at UCO.
How are these examples any different? Come on, Larry, you must have had some clue!
Ed Black
Bud Krogh and I will do a little plumbing at UCO office some night and see what we can find out.
Ed, Your question about Stop signs is most interesting. When we completed putting transponders on the 40 cars last Thursday there was slightly more than a hour left on the sheriffs time ( they have to be hired for at least 3 hours). I then requested that he patrol the village and pay special attention to the stops signs. His next question was "Are the stop signs approved by Palm Beach County". I told him that I did know that the two stop signs at both 4 corners are approved stop signs. The sheriff then told me he could therefore issue tickets at those locations. How many other stop signs in the village are "approved stop signs" I do not know. I was also informed that the red "no turn on red sign by the east gate is NOT
AN APPROVED SIGN but the one hanging on the traffic light pole with the black letters "no turn on red" was approved. I know that there are many other Stop signs in the village that probably were never approved by the county. I do know that there are many areas in the village where stop signs are not only necessary but vital.
It appears that many communities like ours just goes out and buy stop signs and just put them up. I will therefore suggest to the new Safety Committee that this is a matter that they should consider looking into.
I know nothing about the Hastings edict but will look into it.
The presidents of the Somerset Area buildings will meet, will discuss the tennis court matter, and will make a decision. While we have little control on what goes on inside the tennis courts we do have control on what goes on our properties and our portions of the roads and parking areas.
Larry,
The issue of enforcement of stop signs is that we are a private community and only the perimeter roads STOP signs are county dictates, and accordingly enforceable.
If you own a dirt road and decide the speed limit entering your property, the authorities CAN NOT enforce private speed limit signs even when they appear like those the that State or County place for the safety of the public.
The whole issue of our being forced into situations when no vote or poll was taken, and no information of a decision that UCO makes, is just a proof of the need for Professional Management to stop this inappropriate behavior. Stop signs that are unenforceable only encourage everyone to “IGNORE ALL STOP AND NO TURN ON RED SIGNS".
Aren’t we encouraging drivers to disregard the many Stop signs by ADDING more that are unenforceable?
Ed Black
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