DAVE

I spoke to Ed Black a few minutes ago, and he says that David is doing well. One very tender hip and one that hurts like you know what. He is up for a few minutes at a time but is groggy from pain pills. I know that we all wish him the very quickest of recoveries

2nd Official Blog Party - good food, good fun!

Hi All,

There is talk floating around the blog that it is time for us Bloggers to once again meet for a bite to eat, some great conversation, and lots of laughs. This will be our second gathering. Please let us know if you would be interested in coming.

Mike wants Italian and it should be his turn to pick because he was at the first gathering. Everybody that went to the first one, get's to choose this location. All of you that show up for this one, will get to choose the next location. Does that sound fair? But we should also try to make everybody happy.

Mike, have you got any other Italian restaurants in mind other than Carrabas? If we go there, I don't think we're going to get Capt John to join us after his last very bad experience a few days ago.

Ok everybody, suggestions please. Good locations and good dates???

Can't wait,
chris

Haverhill Gate, again

Is there any new information on when the Haverhill Gate walls clean up project will begin? As of last week, it looked as bad as ever. Thanks.

Open the Door

There is a gate between Century Village and the building that encompasses the MRI, X-rays, a number of other medical doctors and people of the same persuasion. This gate has been locked shut. A large number of people have been voicing their disapproval of this situation. It seems if they go for a treatment and it leaves them a little weak or if they went to an ophthalmologist and their eyes were dilated, therefore, making it difficult to drive in traffic going over 50 miles an hour on Okeechobee Boulevard. If someone can get that gate to be opened for, let's say, six to eight hours a day, it would be a great advantage to the people in Century Village. Perhaps if you know someone that drives to that building built of green windows and they explained why the entranceway was so advantageous and necessary, you would get a better sense of what I'm trying to say. Even if it would cost some money, perhaps shared by both the building and our village, I feel our people would vote for it.

YouTube link

Who put our local homeless on the left hand side YouTube link? I do not usually look over there because it has been Lewis Black forever. You can get same homeless videos by searching on YouTube – ‘Homeless West Palm Beach’ then you do not have to wait for them to slide by on our blog.
Also, thanks for Pat Condell video, now I have something to do while Dave is away, watch 40 Pat Condell videos. People raised in the same country can go their different ways, far away, but find they have same values when they reach retirement.

Need some advice about deleting comments

Hi all, I need a little advice. Aren't we suppose to be able to delete a comment if we are the one that put the comment in? I have done this in the past, but don't seem to be able to do it now. I thought all we had to do was sign in, click on the "B" in the left corner, then click on "posts", open up the post that we need to delete a comment - and then we would see the garbage can under our comment and we would be able to get rid of our goofy/mispelled comment.

Well, I have been trying to delete something and I can't get the garbage can. I signed in, clicked on "B", clicked on the correct post, found my comment - but no garbage can.

What am I doing wrong?

thanks,
chris

REFLEXOLOGY

Reflexology; is about the concept that certain areas of the feet correspond to zones of the body. By proper manipulation, healing of various problems may be achieved.

The idea, is that disease is a malfunction of the "Life Energy Force" AKA "Qi".

Proper Qi may be re-established by means of this massage process.

I experienced this sort of thing while in the Service in Japan, I don't know if it helped, but it sure felt good!!!

Dave

Reflexology

There is a Reflexology class in May in CV. It was not listed in the first set of class flyers for May, but if you are interested check with Jennifer in the Clubhouse office 640-3120 x1.
Six classes 10am Wednesdays I think, but check.

Perfect Men in CV

Yes ladies you are really missing out. There are men in CV who are intelligent, funny, charming, helpful, no cooking and cleaning involved and THEY ARE WONDERFUL LISTENERS. Some of them are dark and mysterious (the anons). Yes the men of the CVBLOG. What more could you ask!
No, I do not think there are plans for a calendar. Tho’ a picture of Dave in hospital gown would be priceless. Dave we will all be thinking of you and miss you very much. See you on the Blog when you feel much, much better.

DOORS REDUX, HURRICANE RESISTANCE

Hi All,

In another Comment Stream, A Nony Mouse and Plcruise said:

Anonymous said...

Having been informed that Jalousie doors, did not meet "Miami-Dade"codes, adopted by Palm Beach County as well...how was this new purchase possible? Thanks for responding..

Bettie L

Apr 26, 2008 10:06:00 AM

Plcruise said...

Re: the previous comment. I too am interested if these type doors are still allowed by PBC code. I love my jalousie door, but I am not sure how safe it is in a hurricane.

Apr 26, 2008 10:50:00 AM

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Ok,
What we are getting to here is “Impact Resistance” and “Wind Pressure Cycles”. The answer is simple; if the Installer is reputable, and followed the code you are safe, if not, then you are at risk of breakage under the right conditions. In short, it is not about the door, it is about the glass or what protection is applied to the glass.

Ask the Contractor what standard the glass meets; because if there is no Permit and Inspection, this item might not come up.

There are two key tests; the Large Missile test and the Small Missile test.

The Large Missile test involves firing a 9 pound 2 x 4 into the glass at 50 FPS

the Small Missile test involves 2 Grams of Steel Shot at 130 FPS.

There are also issues of how high your Door or Window is above grade.

Both Tests require many Wind Pressure Cycles to pass the test. Please read the following Reference carefully, and check your glass for the standard marking:

http://www.pbcgov.com/PZB/building/bcab/docs/windowfilm011306.pdf

Dave

A Cheesy Puzzlement

Ever notice that in restaurants, the grated Parmesan cheese dispenser has mold inside the metal top? It is black in color and does not seem appetizing. I asked a couple of restaurant owners why don't they clean it and they replied they do clean it frequently, but they claim the metal top forms a rust that doesn't clean off after a short time. The restaurant owners seem to say it's not poisonous, it's just cheese being exposed to the air. I don't feel that this situation should be allowed to continue. That's my opinion; what's yours?

Battery/Antenna TV

Thx for all the info on our cable TVs. But what happens to my emergency TV. Battery powered, antenna only, local stations only TV? Will it get anything after February? It was useful when electricity and cable were out during hurricanes. It currently resides in an RV and picks up a couple of stations in trips to the Everglades, and plenty in Orlando.

TeeVee Jeebies

The Green Jacket is scratching her head wondering how so many folks with 2-room condos have four TVs, where do you put them all?? Surround vision TV !!

Green Jacket, female Eastern Pond Dragonfly, resident of Sussex.

Florida Democrats - votes not counting

Hi folks,

I am stealing Dave's trick and starting a new post with the comment I just made on Dave' post. After reading my comment, if interested, please see Dave's great post and terrific references below (4 posts down).

ChrisJ said...

Ok folks, I have spent my morning reading the Florida articles. Have not gotten to Michagan's yet. The St. Peterburg Times article on May 9, 2007, is the one that really answered my question.

Great references Dave! It seems that the National Democrats have much stricter penalties about violating the voting schedule than the Republicans do. The Republicans were pushing to move the date up.

During these talks, the Democrats were noticably absent. Shame! Bill Nelson tried to help (I always liked him), but to no avail. The Republicans passed moving it up and Mel Martinez, the new young Republican played a role in this also. I am not so sure I like what I have been reading about him.

Well, anyway, thank you Dave. I do finally understand all this. I am going to re-read the articles again later today. I want it all to sink in real deep so I can show off my knowledge to anyone and everyone who will listen!!! (only kidding).

Dave is the greatest at getting us facts we can sink our teeth in! This whole thing does make me very mad! I guess I am truly an independent because sometimes I love/hate the Republicans and sometimes I love/hate the Democrats.

This gal finally gets it!

Now to get on with my day. You people are really messing up my morning exercise routine. I have to get off this darn blog!!!

signed,
"now the new politcal savvy"
chris

Capt , this says it all.

Click link

GI Bill

Click the link

WHY OUR VOTES MAY NOT COUNT

Hi All,
In another Comment stream:

ChrisJ said...
Now - on to serious business. What is this with the Michigan votes and the Florida votes not counting. I know we have already been through this discussion with Dave. He explained, but I still don't get it. It is suppose to be the Republican's fault. But how can anybody in this great USA take away our vote away??? it's un-American!!!

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Hi All,
This issue, in both cases, Florida and Michigan was a result of the States wishing to aggrandize themselves on the National Political Stage. The result was that the DNC slapped their wrists by invalidating their Delegates; Wow, a credentials fight at a Democratic Convention; what else is new??
Dave
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The following extracts will put you in the picture, read the entire reference for more detail:

Florida Moves Its Primary Up to January 2008

All Things Considered, May 21, 2007 · The state of Florida is moving its presidential primary earlier by one week, under a new law signed by Gov. Charlie Crist. The change means that Florida's Jan. 29 vote will set it apart from the large number of states holding their primaries on Feb. 5, 2008.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10304611



What if Democratic voters turned out for a presidential primary in Florida and their vote didn't count?

No, this isn't a Katherine Harris joke.
It's an option national Democratic leaders are seriously considering as they grapple with Florida's newly scheduled 2008 presidential primary date, which could upend the national primary process and produce yet another weird Florida election. Consider the scenario:

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/09/State/Dems__primary_may_not.shtml

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LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The Michigan Senate voted Wednesday to move the state's presidential nomination contests to Jan. 15, further roiling an already turbulent nomination schedule that has raised the possibility of voting before New Year's.

Approval of the switch is far from sure. The Michigan House must still pass the measure, and a disagreement among state Democratic leaders over whether to hold a primary or a caucus is complicating final action

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-08-22-michigan-primary_N.htm

Mich. Primary Move Splits Democrats ; Candidates Stay Away, but Others Say State's Voice Should Match Its Size

By Peter SlevinWashington Post Staff WriterTuesday, October 9, 2007; A06

DEARBORN, Mich., Oct. 8 -- For Debbie Dingell and Sen. Carl M. Levin, the standoff has been brewing for years. The Michigan Democrats have long worked, mostly behind the scenes, to change an electoral calendar that places vast importance on results in Iowa and New Hampshire, states that bear little resemblance to the industrial heartland.

"There's just no possible justification for one or two states that are not particularly representative to have a dominant role in this process. It's not fair to other states," Levin said in a telephone interview. "Why the hell do New Hampshire and Iowa have a claim to the attention to their issues?"

Republican presidential candidates will be standing on a Dearborn stage Tuesday afternoon, discussing manufacturing, jobs and the U.S. economy. Democrats, meanwhile, are shunning Michigan in retaliation for the state's decision to elbow its way into the early primary lineup. When Michigan moved its primary to Jan. 15, leaders in New Hampshire and Iowa leaned on the Democratic principals to stay away.

The result is a tangle, with the Democratic National Committee vowing not to seat any convention delegates Michigan chooses that day and Democratic presidential candidates facing a deadline of Tuesday to decide whether to remain on the ballot here

.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/08/AR2007100801511_pf.html

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Hope that helps;
Dave

Veterans on Military Trail

I was riding along Military and Okeechobee and saw some people dressed as soldiers with "Veterans Support" written on the back of their shirt while they were soliciting the cars stopped at the red light to donate money to this cause. I feel that these young fellows went overseas and fought and while they are home, instead of getting a rest, the army's got them out soliciting for "veterans support." The United States has got themselves in a real quarry when they have to get the veterans go out and beg for money to help the position that the veterans are in. Of the three people vying to become our next president, Hillary is the only one that keeps saying "bring our boys home." Barack and John each have a poor agenda towards getting our boys home. Many of the people in the military have been home and rotated back more than three times. These people are stressed out and what does this veterans group do but get them to get dressed in army fatigues and go out "begging." This is a sorry scene that our country is not doing more for our veterans. I personally don't care where or how our government raises the funds to help our veterans get over the stress they have been under in Iraq, just so long as they get these boys all the help they need to regain their self-esteem and rid themselves of the terrible sight of warfare. That's how I feel. What's your opinion?

How Many TV Sets in your Condo?

I am trying to find out how many TV sets are in the Village.
Please answer- How many TV sets do you have in your Condo?

How many are HD sets?

National politics, national news, problems – anybody want to share their opinion?

I'll share mine later........

CV RE March

Property transactions for March ’08, CV portion of zip 33417.
15 sold, price range $23K - $48K.
As requested, per the PB Post.

OUR HOMELESS REDUX

Recent upheavals amongst our local homeless are resolved. I talked with one them ‘el Jefe’, not his real name. I thought he lived in CV, but not so, although he does currently have a place to stay. He calls standing at the intersection with a sign Flyin’. You will be glad to know the homeless interlopers from Lk Worth have been moved on, also any homeless who go bad and steal are moved on too. Our locals frown on those who make inaccurate claims to be injured vets. Some ‘work’ the gas stations etc. but the flyers at the intersections feel superior. Jefe has regular friends/helpers, one gives him cast off designer shirts and $5/week, so Jefe is looking for more friends and carpentry work. I now know about homeless at the beach, the county park and those who sleep under the 441 Southern flyover. I know who gets hassled by which police. I guess I have a new friend, now that will be $5/week :-0

CV Clubhouse Indispensable Info

Pick up the Clubhouse Info packet (white is up-to-date, not blue) It clearly answers all those questions for over/under 16, Clubhouse and Hastings, and has lots of other useful info. Really indispensable for new residents and those with bad memories. They are available in the Ticket and ID offices at the Clubhouse. It will save you lots of confusing visits to UCO.
Here are some rules and regs. that would have helped a recent poster:
"3. No persons under the age of 16 will be admitted into the recreational facilities, except that when accompanied by an adult. Such qualified persons may use the guest swimming pool, picnic island and the four (4) courts in the SW corner of the shuffleboard area.
4. Persons under the age of 21 will not be allowed to participate in activities in the card room, party room nor bingo games, nor will persons under the age of 18 use or be allowed admission to the sewing room or pool tables or the billiard room.5. Persons using the Clubhouse may be required to furnish proof of age."

BLOGMEISTER TO HAVE SURGERY

Hi All,
Your BLOG-meister will be admitted to JFK for hip joint replacement surgery on April 28th and for the second hip on May 12th.

With the corollary rehab, I will be offline for an unknown time period.

I will miss all of you BLOGGERS but I will try to drop in from time-to-time.

Thanks for your well wishes.

Dave

NEW X-WORD BY DAVE

Hi All,

herewith a new X-Word puzzle. There were no correct solutions received for last weeks X-Word.

This weeks puzzle has easier clues but this is offset a bit by it being very large. I hope you enjoy the puzzle.

See if you can find the CV birds that I have embedded in the puzzle.

Here is the Site;

http://www.mycrosswords.com/824/DavidBIsrael/Untitled.html

I will also put it at the Side-Bar, at the end on the left.

Dave

UCO

One of our Unit owners informed the board that UCO told her it was ok for people to stay in her unit when she was not there. Our By laws clearly state that no one can use a unit unless the owner is there and 30 days is the maximum stay. Has anyone run into this situation ? Mike

BETTY LAPIDUS HOSPITALIZED

Hi All,

Sadly I report that Betty Lapidus, UCO Recording Secretary, has been hospitalized in Ft. Myers Florida for a fractured Hip.

She is at Lee Memorial Hospital.she has just had surgery and her son David reports thru Ed black that all went well.

Please do not flood her with calls right away; but your prayers for her speedy recovery will surely be greatly appreciated.

Dave

SERVICE ANIMALS IN "NO PETS" BUILDINGS

In another post Tom Marcella said:

Saturday, April 19, 2008

service dogs in no pets associations

I was recently asked if service (or assistant) dogs are allowed in an association that does not allow pets. What is the answer? Are there any state or federal laws on this?
Tom

Posted by tom marcella at 4/19/2008 10:42:00 PM 0 comments
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Service Animals:

Your Admin speaks:

Hi Tom,
This is a very important question so I am posting my response here so it is more visible than in a comment stream.:

Florida Statutes FS-718 is Mute on the question of Service Animals;

However The Fair Housing Act and Florida Statutes at Title XXX / Chapter 413 / FS- 413.08 – 413.081 are unambiguous.

This is a matter of Reasonable Accommodation to a certain set of disabilities and you cannot deny an individual with said disability the services of such a Trained Animal. In the State of Florida this applies in Public Places and in Housing of almost any sort.

To be very specific; these laws cut through any local Declaration of Condominium or Bylaw. To deny such a disabled person the right to his or her Service Animal would be a very serious mistake.

Please read the following extracts and the entire reference.
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http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/foia/tal151.txt

The Fair Housing Act (42 U.S.C.  3604(f)(3)(B)) prohibits
discrimination against a renter or buyer on the basis of
disability.

Discrimination includes a refusal to make reasonable
accommodations in rules, policies, practices, or services, when
those accommodations may be necessary to afford a person with a
disability equal opportunity to use and enjoy a place of
residence.

While the Fair Housing Act and the regulations issued
by the Department of Housing and Urban Development do not
specifically address service animals, it is likely that the Act
would at times require that service animals be allowed in a
housing facility in order to afford a disabled individual fair
use and enjoyment of the facility.

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http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0413/ch0413.htm

413.08 Rights of an individual with a disability; use of a service animal; discrimination in public employment or housing accommodations; penalties.--

(1) As used in this section and s. 413.081, the term:

(a) "Housing accommodation" means any real property or portion thereof which is used or occupied, or intended, arranged, or designed to be used or occupied, as the home, residence, or sleeping place of one or more persons, but does not include any single-family residence, the occupants of which rent, lease, or furnish for compensation not more than one room therein.

(b) "Individual with a disability" means a person who is deaf, hard of hearing, blind, visually impaired, or otherwise physically disabled. As used in this paragraph, the term:

1. "Hard of hearing" means an individual who has suffered a permanent hearing impairment that is severe enough to necessitate the use of amplification devices to discriminate speech sounds in verbal communication.

2. "Physically disabled" means any person who has a physical impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities.

Also see: FS 413.08 (6) (b)

(b) An individual with a disability who has a service animal or who obtains a service animal is entitled to full and equal access to all housing accommodations provided for in this section, and such a person may not be required to pay extra compensation for the service animal. However, such a person is liable for any damage done to the premises or to another person on the premises by such an animal. A housing accommodation may request proof of compliance with vaccination requirements.

Dave

service dogs in no pets associations

I was recently asked if service (or assistant) dogs are allowed in an association that does not allow pets. What is the answer? Are there any state or federal laws on this?

Tom

Busy Bench

In previous post Denise noted no-one is sitting on new 7 benches. In my opposite quiet corner of CV we love our bench (again - thx to Haskell Morin). It was scruffy but we painted it. It is not just a bus stop, it is a meeting spot, people come to chat, sunbathe, soak up the sun, smoke, etc. it is rarely empty. Maybe because we have no pool, no waterfront, no sidewalk, it is our high point for those who do not want a longer walk.

North Dakota Oil

I made a mistake on which Dakota. This is not the report that I read but it will tell you something. Mike

DOG DAYS

Will the Blog take a break in the dog days?
Put up a "Settin' on the porch" flag.
"Too hot to blog, back after Labor Day"

Delay on CV gates cleanup

UCO regrets property manager has been out sick and contracted work has not begun, but it will soon…. I am not making anymore predictions.
*Does make you wonder if maintenance would have been better had Levy not conveyed gates, roads etc to UCO.

Associated matters – You will notice the Medical/Midtown Imaging gate is locked and guard booth removed. One of the medical bldg doctors WAS paying for this gate service, but no longer. He used the same guard service as the village but it was not a CV/UCO guard.

WHO OWNS WHAT; ROAD EASEMENTS AND TRANSPARENCY

Hi All,

Currently, there is an ongoing discussion in another thread about Traffic Control in CV. I made a statement in that Thread which is incorrect;

namely that WPRF owns the Perimeter Road.

Additionally much Misinformation has appeared in the past on the CV Q & A and in this BLOG concerning the issue of Access to the Medical Building by potential customers of the new owners.

I have consulted Mark Levy on these matters and he has provided me with key references that resolve both issues unambiguously:

All readers; please read and note well:

The first Reference is a Memorandum of Agreement, executed on January 26th. 1994; wherein Village Management Inc, Conveyed to UCO certain Roads, Swales, Guardhouses, and Common Areas.

This Conveyance is based upon UCO,s agreement to maintain, and operate the property and other agreements concerning the property.

This Memorandum of Agreement may be read at the following URL:

http://oris.co.palm-beach.fl.us/or_web1/details.asp?doc_id=3224661&file_num=19940227734



On the same day; January 26th. 1994, UCO executed a Roadway Easement for the benefit of Village Management, Inc. WPRF Inc., and DX PROPERTIES (At the time, the Owner of the Administration building).

To make a long story short; DX Properties subsequently sold the Administration Building to Brad Estra who subsequently sold the property to David Menkhaus ET-Al, this building is now know as the Medical Plaza.

Most importantly; this Easement encompasses among many others, Business Invitees to any of the described parties.

Additionally, the Easement shall be perpetual and run with the land. Thus all subsequent purchasers have benefit of said Easement.

Mike; I know this has been a major issue for you and some others, so please read the following reference carefully:

http://oris.co.palm-beach.fl.us/or_web1/details.asp?doc_id=3224663&file_num=19940227736


Finally, I must say that this controversy could have been kyboshed from the beginning if UCO had been more inclined to be TRANSPARENT; and stop operating in secrecy; of course, is it possible that the current Administration is unaware of these past events???.

A good example of this lack of Transparency is the millions of dollars spent by the Operations Committee, about which we are told nothing;

Madam Treasurer; how about a monthly spreadsheet detailing these expenses along with the current UCO budget data., must we go to WPRF for this as well?

Thanks to Mark Levy for the Key references.

Dave

ANONYMOUS POLL RESULTS

Hi All,

The Poll on Anonymous Posting has run to completion. There were 30 votes cast and the results are unambiguous:

22 votes in favor of Anonymous Posting.
8 votes against Anonymous Posting.

So it shall be written so it shall be done!!

Dave

Birthplace of Crosswords

I met people that do not know that our crosswords are created right here. Every twisty devious clue, every down and across, every black square, are made by Dave Israel.
CV is a crossword hatchery (help what is right word?).
Are crosswords copyrighted?
Its time for a little bragging.
Dave was recognized by Cerabino, does anyone have the whole article in their archives?

KING OF THE CROSSWORDS KEEPS CENTURY VILLAGERS GUESSING Author: Frank Cerabino Date: August 22, 2007 Palm Beach Post
Century Village in suburban West Palm Beach has its own crossword puzzle.
You probably don't know about it. Most people in Century Village don't know about it. "So far, there's only one person who consistently responds," said David Israel, 67, a retired National Security Agency cryptographer who began making crossword puzzles this summer for the amusement of his fellow condo dwellers. >>>

Spammer?

Is that Shakadal at the end of the traffic thread another spammer invader? I'm not clicking on any mystery item.
Is CV traffic actually worse thean other developments, or does the rudeness just make it feel that way! Lets ask the Safety Cmte.
Note town of Drachten got rid of all signs and lights and is safer, because people respond to conditions not signs!. Also see traffic calming on Wickipedia.

TRAFFIC CONTROL IN CV; IS ANY OF IT "LEGAL"

Hi all,
In another Comment stream, Larry Kall and Ed black said:

LARRY KALL said...

Ed,
Your question about Stop signs is most interesting. When we completed putting transponders on the 40 cars last Thursday there was slightly more than a hour left on the sheriffs time ( they have to be hired for at least 3 hours).

I then requested that he patrol the village and pay special attention to the stops signs. His next question was "Are the stop signs approved by Palm Beach County".

I told him that I did know that the two stop signs at both 4 corners are approved stop signs. (ADMIN. Note; The Evidence please?)

The sheriff then told me he could therefore issue tickets at those locations.

How many other stop signs in the village are "approved stop signs" I do not know. I was also informed that the red "no turn on red sign by the east gate is NOT AN APPROVED SIGN but the one hanging on the traffic light pole with the black letters "no turn on red" was approved. I know that there are many other Stop signs in the village that probably were never approved by the county.

I do know that there are many areas in the village where stop signs are not only necessary but vital.It appears that many communities like ours just goes out and buy stop signs and just put them up.

I will therefore suggest to the new Safety Committee that this is a matter that they should consider looking into.

I know nothing about the Hastings edict but will look into it.
The presidents of the Somerset Area buildings will meet, will discuss the tennis court matter, and will make a decision. While we have little control on what goes on inside the tennis courts we do have control on what goes on our properties and our portions of the roads and parking areas.

Apr 15, 2008 9:24:00 PM

edeveblack said...

Larry,

The issue of enforcement of stop signs is that we are a private community and only the perimeter roads STOP signs are county dictates, and accordingly enforceable. (ADMIN. Note; The Evidence please?)

If you own a dirt road and decide the speed limit entering your property, the authorities CAN NOT enforce private speed limit signs even when they appear like those the that State or County place for the safety of the public.

The whole issue of our being forced into situations when no vote or poll was taken, and no information of a decision that UCO makes, is just a proof of the need for Professional Management to stop this inappropriate behavior.

Stop signs that are unenforceable only encourage everyone to “IGNORE ALL STOP AND NO TURN ON RED SIGNS". Aren’t we encouraging drivers to disregard the many Stop signs by ADDING more that are unenforceable?

Ed Black
Apr 15, 2008 10:23:00 PM
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There is an interesting Legal Advisory Opinion on the issue of the PB County Commission's authority to install enforceable traffic control devices on various types of roads in the County. It is not clear to me that they have any authority to do so on private roads whatsoever. You read the reference and be the judge:

http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/25B52B35ABF0822C8525658C00605DA8

Dave

APPROPRIATE SUBJECT MATTER ,CV , Q&A

Author: carole (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: 12-08-07 09:52
Questions that are not appropriate for this forum will be removed.If you have questions about UCO, Seacrest, WPRF, etc. you need to direct your questions directly to them. You will not receive correct information on this forum, as residents do not always know the answers to these type questions, and UCO, management companies, WPRF and like organizations, have no obligation to read or respond here. Therefore, you will only receive someone's opinion, rather than the facts. When asking such questions, it's important that you receive factual answers to your questions. As a result, those type questions and statements are not allowed here.Type of appropriate questions are:Can someone recommend a good plumber, electrician, tile person?Is there a place in the village that I can advertise something I want to sell? Does Century Village have pet friendly associations?Can anyone suggest an establishment in the area that might be a good place to hold a high school reunion?Sorry folks, but we must hold the forum to what it was intended for. It is a place where one resident can ask a question and receive an answer from another resident, and it is a place for information sharing, such as postings about dangers lurking in our lake.

PLEASE FOLKS, BE AWARE , DON'T GET BANNED FOR LIFE. THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE

Tennis Court Noise

NO WORK ON TUESDAY
Larry must have forgotten the CV Q&A posting Criteria

Author: Larry Kall (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)Date: 04-15-08 13:09


I called my Maintenance Company Monday to request that they do some lawn work on Tuesday and was informed that they do not do work near the tennis courts on Tuesday due to a Tennis Court rule. I asked what the rule was and was informed that on Tuesdays there are tennis tournaments and the tennis players do not like the noise of any equipment. I then asked where the rule came from and I was informed that it came from the tennis courts. To say the least I was somewhat amazed at what I was told. In any case I received a call back from my maintenance company that they could indeed come on Tuesday as long as it was after 11 AM when any tournaments would be over.I then advised my maintenance company that our building was not controlled by the tennis courts and I expected them to be there at 9 AM Tuesday to do the required work which they did.MY QUESTION IS -IS THERE SUCH A TUESDAY RULE? WHO HAS THE POWER TO MAKE SUCH A RULE? WHO HAS THE POWER TO ENFORCE SUCH A RULE?
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DMV MOBILE 4/16/08

Would enyone know what that is all about?

Problwm with Blog

Dave,

You put a lot of information about doors on the blog and now I am having a major problem with the blog due to the size of the text. Cold you review your article and find a way to get it readable?

CV DOCUMENT CHECKLIST

Who, wot, where, and how is a Recreation Lease, as referred to by Larry?

I like my info dry and dusty, I have:

Articles of Incorporation of UCO, Amendment, & Resolution
UCO Bylaws Dec 1 ‘06
Millennium Agreement with Exhibits A & B +Schedule 2
UCO-Associations Bilateral-Agreement
Clubhouse Information Packet (old - no date)
UCO Welcome to CV 2006

My Association Condominium Documents (Declaration, Bylaws, and Incorporation) with Amendments and Survey w/map

Florida Statutes Condominium Act Chapter 718
Florida Administrative Code 61B-15 thru 25
Condominium Unit Owner Rights & Responsibilities

DOORS, EXCLUSIVE TERRITORIES, CODES AND ESCAPE HATCH

Some thoughts on doors.

Sorry if this runs on, but this is non-trivial research and there is lots of stuff to plow thru:

I) On the issue of “Exclusive territories” wherein only a certain Contractor can operate.

This is absurd. If any Contractor says to you that only they or another contractor may install a door in CV, This is collusion in restraint of trade and should be reported to the Florida Attorney General.

REF: http://myfloridalegal.com/

Specifically Consumer Protection

REF: http://myfloridalegal.com/consumer


II) Now for the matter of Louvered/Jalousie doors,
I have looked at the Florida Building Codes and The Fire Codes at first scan there appears to be no prohibition against Louvered/Jalousie windows or doors.
But the fire code search is totally inadequate as noted below:

The Fire Code:

REF: http://www.fldfs.com/sfm/florida_fire_prevention_code_2004.htm

This is the State Code and it is essentially unsearchable, because they want you to buy it; 4 point type and no Find, Search, Print, or Copy allowed; just plain criminal.

REF: http://www.fldfs.com/sfm/bfpr/localamend/PalmBeach_county_2006-0206.pdf
The PBC local amendments make no mention of Louvered/Jalousie doors


Next I looked at the Building Codes:
The results follow.

Florida Building Code
http://www2.iccsafe.org/states/2004_florida_codes/


Primary Level Ref:
http://www2.iccsafe.org/states/Florida2007FinalDraft/residential/Residential07_Frameset.htm

R308.2 Louvered windows or jalousies. Regular, float, wired
or patterned glass in jalousies and louvered windows shall be
no thinner than nominal 3/16 inch (5 mm) and no longer than 48
inches (1219 mm). Exposed glass edges shall be smooth.
R308.2.1 Wired glass prohibited. Wired glass with wire
exposed on longitudinal edges shall not be used in jalousies
or louvered windows.
R308.3 Human impact loads. Individual glazed areas, including
glass mirrors in hazardous locations such as those indicated
as defined in Section R308.4, shall pass the test requirements of
CPSC 16 CFR, Part 1201. Glazing shall comply with CPSC 16
CFR, Part 1201 criteria for Category I or Category II as indicated
in Table R308.3.
Exception: Louvered windows and jalousies shall comply
with Section R308.2.


Top Level Ref:

http://ecodes.iccsafe.org/icce/gateway.dll?f=templates&fn=default.htm&vid=icc:florida_residential

Second Level Ref:

http://ecodes.iccsafe.org/icce/gateway.dll?f=templates&fn=default.htm&vid=icc:florida_residential


SECTION R308 GLAZING

R308.1 Identification.
Each pane shall bear the manufacturer’s label designating the type and thickness of glass or glazing material. Except as indicated in Section R308.1.1 , each pane of glazing installed in hazardous locations as defined in Section R308.4 shall be provided with a manufacturer’s or installer’s label, designating the type and thickness of glass and the safety glazing standard with which it complies, which is visible in the final installation. The safety glazing label shall be acid etched, sandblasted, ceramic-fired, embossed mark, or shall be of a type which once applied cannot be removed without being destroyed.

Exceptions:

1. For other than tempered glass, labels may be omitted provided the building official approves the use of a certificate, affidavit or other evidence furnished by the glazing contractor certifying that each light is glazed in accordance with approved construction documents that comply with the provisions of this chapter confirming compliance with this code.

2. Tempered spandrel glass may be identified by the manufacturer with a removable paper label.
R308.1.1 Identification of multipane assemblies.
Multi-pane assemblies having individual panes not exceeding 1 square foot (0.09 m 2 ) in exposed area shall have at least one pane in the assembly identified in accordance with Section R308.1 . All other panes in the assembly shall be labeled “16 CFR 1201.”

Louvered R308.2 Louvered windows or jalousies.
Regular, float, wired or patterned glass in jalousies and louvered windows shall be no thinner than nominal 3 / 16 inch (4.76 mm) and no longer than 48 inches (1219 mm). Exposed glass edges shall be smooth.

R308.2.1 Wired glass prohibited.
Wired glass with wire exposed on longitudinal edges shall not be used in jalousies or louvered windows.

R308.3 Human impact loads.
Individual glazed areas including glass mirrors in hazardous locations such as those indicated as defined in Section R308.4 shall pass the test requirements of CPSC 16 CFR, Part 1201. Glazing shall comply with the CPSC 16 CFR, Part 1201 criteria for Category I or Category II as indicated in Table R308.3 .

Exceptions:

1. Polished wired glass for use in fire doors and other fire resistant locations shall comply with ANSI Z97.1.
2. Louvered windows and jalousies shall comply with Section R308.2 .

TABLE R308.3 MINIMUM CATEGORY CLASSIFICATION OF GLAZING
EXPOSED SURFACE AREA OF ONE SIDE OF ONE LITE
GLAZING IN STORM OR COMBINATION DOORS (Category Class)
GLAZING IN DOORS (Category Class)
GLAZED PANELS REGULATED BY ITEM 7 OF SECTION R308.4 (Category Class)
GLAZED PANELS REGULATED BY ITEM 6 OF SECTION R308.4 (Category Class)
GLAZING IN DOORS AND ENCLOSURES REGULATED BY ITEM 5 OF SECTION R308.4 (Category Class)
SLIDING GLASS DOORS PATIO TYPE (Category Class)
9 sq. ft. or less II
More than 9 sq. ft II
For SI: 1 square foot = 0.0929 m 2 .
a NR means “No Requirement.”
R308.4 Hazardous locations.
The following shall be considered specific hazardous locations for the purposes of glazing:
1. Glazing in swinging doors except jalousies.
2. Glazing in fixed and sliding panels of sliding door assemblies and panels in sliding and bifold closet door assemblies.
3. Glazing in storm doors.
4. Glazing in all unframed swinging doors.
5. Glazing in doors and enclosures for hot tubs, whirlpools, saunas, steam rooms, bathtubs and showers. Glazing in any part of a building wall enclosing these compartments where the bottom exposed edge of the glazing is less than 60 inches (1524 mm) measured vertically above any standing or walking surface.
6. Glazing, in an individual fixed or operable panel adjacent to a door where the nearest vertical edge is within a 24-inch (610 mm) arc of the door in a closed position and whose bottom edge is less than 60 inches (1524 mm) above the floor or walking surface.
7. Glazing in an individual fixed or operable panel, other than those locations described in Items 5 and 6 above, that meets all of the following conditions:

7.1. Exposed area of an individual pane greater than 9 square feet (0.836 m 2 ).
7.2. Bottom edge less than 18 inches (457 mm) above the floor.
7.3. Top edge greater than 36 inches (914 mm) above the floor.
7.4. One or more walking surfaces within 36 inches (914 mm) horizontally of the glazing.

8. All glazing in railings regardless of an area or height above a walking surface. Included are structural baluster panels and nonstructural in-fill panels.

9. Glazing in walls and fences enclosing indoor and outdoor swimming pools, hot tubs and spas where the bottom edge of the glazing is less than 60 inches (1524 mm) above a walking surface and within 60 inches (1524 mm) horizontally of the water’s edge. This shall apply to single glazing and all panes in multiple glazing.

10. Glazing adjacent to stairways, landings and ramps within 36 inches (914 mm) horizontally of a walking surface when the exposed surface of the glass is less than 60 inches (1524 mm) above the plane of the adjacent walking surface.

11. Glazing adjacent to stairways within 60 inches (1524 mm) horizontally of the bottom tread of a stairway in any direction when the exposed surface of the glass is less than 60 inches (1524 mm) above the nose of the tread.
Exception: The following products, materials and uses are exempt from the above hazardous locations:

1. Openings in doors through which a 3-inch (76 mm) sphere is unable to pass.

2. Decorative glass in Items 1, 6 or 7.

3. Glazing in Section R308.4 , Item 6, when there is an intervening wall or other permanent barrier between the door and the glazing.

4. Glazing in Section R308.4 , Item 6, in walls perpendicular to the plane of the door in a closed position or where access through the door is to a closet or storage area 3 feet (914 mm) or less in depth. Glazing in these applications shall comply with Section R308.4 , Item 7.

5. Glazing in Section R308.4 , Items 7 and 10, when a protective bar is installed on the accessible side(s) of the glazing 36 inches ± 2 inches (914 ± mm 51 mm) above the floor. The bar shall be capable of withstanding a horizontal load of 50 pounds per linear foot (74.5 kg/m) without contacting the glass and be a minimum of 1½ inches (38 mm) in height.

6. Outboard panes in insulating glass units and other multiple glazed panels in Section R308.4 , Item 7, when the bottom edge of the glass is 25 feet (7620 mm) or more above grade, a roof, walking surface, or other horizontal [within 45 degrees (0.79 rad) of horizontal] surface adjacent to the glass exterior.

7. Louvered windows and jalousies complying with the requirements of Section R308.2 .

8. Mirrors and other glass panels mounted or hung on a surface that provides a continuous backing support.

9. Safety glazing in Section R308.4 , Items 10 and 11 is not required where:

9.1. The side of a stairway, landing or ramp has a guardrail or handrail, including balusters or in-fill panels, complying with the provisions of Sections 1012 and 1607.7 of the Florida Building Code, Building; and

9.2. The plane of the glass is greater than 18 inches (457 mm) from the railing.

III) Escape Route

The Florida Building Code requires an Escape Route as noted below; this could be a real issue as regards installation of Louvers/Jalousies on a Patio:

EMERGENCY ESCAPE SECTION 1025

EMERGENCY ESCAPE AND RESCUE

1025.1 General.
In addition to the means of egress required by this chapter, provisions shall be made for emergency escape and rescue in Group R as applicable in Section 101.2 and Group I-1 occupancies.

Basements and sleeping rooms below the fourth story above grade plane shall have at least one exterior emergency escape and rescue opening in accordance with this section.

Where basements contain one or more sleeping rooms, emergency egress and rescue openings shall be required in each sleeping room, but shall not be required in adjoining areas of the basement.

Such opening shall open directly into a public street, public alley, yard or court. The emergency escape and rescue opening shall be permitted to open into a screen enclosure, open to the atmosphere, where a screen door is provided leading away from the residence.

Such opening shall be operational from the inside without the use of special knowledge, keys or tools.

Exceptions:
1. In other than Group R-3 occupancies as applicable in Section 101.2 , buildings equipped throughout with an approved automatic sprinkler system in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1 or 903.3.1.2 .

2. In other than Group R-3 occupancies as applicable in Section 101.2 , sleeping rooms provided with a door to a fire-resistance-rated corridor having access to two remote exits in opposite directions.

3. The emergency escape and rescue opening is permitted to open onto a balcony within an atrium in accordance with the requirements of Section 404 , provided the balcony provides access to an exit and the dwelling unit or sleeping unit has a means of egress that is not open to the atrium.

4. Basements with a ceiling height of less than 80 inches (2032 mm) shall not be required to have emergency escape and rescue windows.

5. High-rise buildings in accordance with Section 403 .

6. Emergency escape and rescue openings are not required from basements or sleeping rooms which have an exit door or exit access door that opens directly into a public street, public alley, yard, egress court or to an exterior exit balcony that opens to a public street, public alley, yard or egress court.

7. Basements without habitable spaces and having no more than 200 square feet (18.6 square meters) in floor area shall not be required to have emergency escape windows.

8. Security and hurricane devices installed in accordance with Section 1008.1.3.6 .
1025.2 Minimum size.
Emergency escape and rescue openings shall have a minimum net clear opening of 5.7 square feet (0.53 m 2 ).
Exception: The minimum net clear opening for emergency escape and rescue grade-floor openings shall be 5 square feet (0.46 m 2 ).
1025.2.1 Minimum dimensions.
The minimum net clear opening height dimension shall be 24 inches (610 mm). The minimum net clear opening width dimension shall be 20 inches (508 mm). The net clear opening dimensions shall be the result of normal operation of the opening.
1025.3 Maximum height from floor.
Emergency escape and rescue openings shall have the bottom of the clear opening not greater than 44 inches (1118 mm) measured from the floor.
1025.4 Operational constraints.
Emergency escape and rescue openings shall be operational from the inside of the room without the use of keys or tools. Bars, grilles, grates or similar devices are permitted to be placed over emergency escape and rescue openings provided the minimum net clear opening size complies with Section 1025.2 and such devices shall be releasable or removable from the inside without the use of a key, tool or force greater than that which is required for normal operation of the escape and rescue opening. See Section 1008.1.3.6 for provisions related to hurricane protection devices. Where such bars, grilles, grates or similar devices are installed in existing buildings, smoke alarms shall be installed in accordance with Section 907.2.10 regardless of the valuation of the alteration.

1025.4.1
Every room or space greater than 250 square feet (23.2 m 2 ) in educational occupancies used for classroom or other educational purposes or normally subject to student occupancy and every room or space normally subject to client occupancy, other than bathrooms, in Group D occupancies shall have not less than one outside window for emergency rescue that complies with the following:

1. Such windows shall be openable from the inside without the use of tools and shall provide a clear opening of not less than 20 inches (508 mm) in width, 24 inches (610 mm) in height, and 5.7 square feet (0.53 m 2 ) in area.

2. The bottom of the opening shall be not more than 44 inches (1118 mm) above the floor, and any latching device shall be capable of being operated from not more than 54 inches (1372 mm) above the finished floor.
1025.5 Window wells.
An emergency escape and rescue opening with a finished sill height below the adjacent ground level shall be provided with a window well in accordance with Sections 1025.5.1 and 1025.5.2 .

1025.5.1 Minimum size.
The minimum horizontal area of the window well shall be 9 square feet (0.84 m 2 ), with a minimum dimension of 36 inches (914 mm). The area of the window well shall allow the emergency escape and rescue opening to be fully opened.
1025.5.2 Ladders or steps.
Window wells with a vertical depth of more than 44 inches (1118 mm) shall be equipped with an approved permanently affixed ladder or steps. Ladders or rungs shall have an inside width of at least 12 inches (305 mm), shall project at least 3 inches (76 mm) from the wall and shall be spaced not more than 18 inches (457 mm) on center (o.c.) vertically for the full height of the window well. The ladder or steps shall not encroach into the required dimensions of the window well by more than 6 inches (152 mm). The ladder or steps shall not be obstructed by the emergency escape and rescue opening. Ladders or steps required by this section are exempt from the stairway requirements of Section 1009 .

and so on Ad-Infinitum

Dave

CV Association Property Lines

In a post below Larry brings up the question of association property lines (PL).
When I first came to CV I’m sure I was imprinted with the bit of wisdom that all of CV was common land for all residents, even fruit trees were common property (politeness suggested).
When UCO beautifies there are PL.
When someone falls there are PL.
If you have an RV there are PL
If you park in a guest spot sometimes there are PL.
If UCO does erosion control there are no PL.
If you look at a Hasting avocado tree – BOOM.
Some areas have fences, do they really need them?
I don’t have a point I am just trying to keep up.

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Comments appreciated.

Dave

Another Case for Detective Larry

Whence did 7 Benches + tra la come from, was it a Dover project or the Beauty Cmte? I had thought the Beauty Cmte was placing single benches evenly around the whole waterview village.
I propose the next blogger meeting be held here.

Guest

If a friend or a member of my family comes for a month long visit , can I get them clubhouse, health club and other activity privileges while the are staying with me. Mike

This is fun , see how long you will live.

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Water Price Increase

Did you get your water co notice, they are planning to charge us more because they lost money when we were forced to use less water because of water restrictions.
I will fix them I shall use even less water.
They should have bought business interruption insurance.

PILES OF SAND AT THE NEW UCO BUILDING SITE

On the CV Q & A Larry Kall Posts the following question;
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Author: Larry Kall (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)Date: 04-10-08 21:15

While putting on transponders on 40 cars today several people commented about the big mounds of sand in the area that was the former UCO office.

One question was most interesting.

Are they building a park with a big sand box?

Anyone know the answer?
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Why he would post such a question on the CV Q & A is difficult to comprehend, as it is totally inappropriate to that forum (Try to remember Larry: Plumbers, Tile People and places for High School Reunions)

Now let’s get to the question;

It is clear that a new Concrete Slab will be required to accommodate the new structure.

Preparation of the subgrade, the earth beneath the slab is a critical step. This step is important, because a poor subgrade will allow the concrete slab to settle unevenly, causing cracks or fissures.

One must remove all organic matter, grass, sod and roots, as well as large stones, from the site.

Grade the ground so it is level, and then examine it for soft, mucky or spongy spots. Dig these out and fill the holes with material similar to the rest of the site or with granular material like sand, gravel or crushed stone.

Next tamp down the ground to compress the soil, and then cover the site with granular fill. The fill should be at least four to six inches thick and should extend at least 12 inches beyond the perimeter of the slab. This extra extension will prevent rainwater from undercutting the slab during heavy storms.

Dampen the sand or gravel lightly -- there should be no puddles or freestanding water -- then tamp the surface down.

If the slab site is relatively small, you can use a hand tamper, but for this job it is best to use a heavy roller or a power tamper (also called a vibratory plate compactor) for this operation.

Check to make sure that the subgrade is level. Add extra fill to any low spots, than tamp again.
I believe that pretty much covers the ground.

Dave

Goldilocks Paint Scheme

I am posting a lot of wimpy stuff but I have to get rid of it before the anti anons kill the blog.
I thought this was a just-right paint job, not too much, not too little. It is manila vanilla with terra cotta walkways. The balustrade which tends to chip and peel is left white – smart. Go see Camden C, it is less pink than the photo. Note - When the whole village is white it becomes indistinguishable from an air force base. That’s all folks.

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Replacing Alluminum Electric Lines

Norwich has three bldg to an Association . Last week a first floor corner unit lost half its power. FPL was called and it was determined that the aluminium line had to be replaced from the meter to the panel in the unit . Since a trench had to dug from the meter room to the condo wall , it was decided by the board to lay 8 conduit lines to the side of the bldg. in case another unit lost power. If another unit goes, all the electrician will have to do is run a new line through the conduit and no digging up the property will be necessary. I'm told it will cost around 8k by the time the property is put back together and sodded. Just want people to know what to expect. . Active Electric did the job and everyone seems to be happy with them. Mike

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Some thoughts come to mind relative to the settlement etc.

At the April Delegates meeting Ms. Bleu, once again, said some unfavorable things about Jean Dowling. Those of us who have worked with or watched Jean in, action, know how well she performed her tasks and how many hours she spent on this job.
We also know that she is a very intelligent (honors graduate from college) and knowledgeable person with a great work ethic.

We also remember the extraordinary effort she made reporting what information was available as the work progressed on the Clubhouse restoration. How did Ms. Bleu become so incorrectly informed of Jean's performance, it does make you wonder?
I do know that rumors or incorrect statements were made concerning things I've supposedly done. I had a hallway conversation with Ms. Bleu where she wondered, out loud, why I was attending an Operations committee meeting. I pointed out that I was on the committee, she responded, it was a known fact that I was a conduit into WPRF and was informing them of every thing that transpired at these meetings. Of course, none of this was true, but where did this "knowledge" come from? I'll give you three guesses and the first two do not count.

How many residents know that I was called for a deposition? By UCO! Ms. Bleu was the questioner with Mr. President at her side. I had to wonder why I had been called until I saw this duo. I wonder how much money Ms. Bleu's firm racked up? I was there for nearly eight hours along with a court reporter. Total cost must have been nearly $400.00 per hour, multiplied by the total number of hours involved, for everyone being deposed.

It is good to have this issue resolved but what happened since the Executive Board meeting several months ago where the same basic agreement was approved at the regular Monday meeting but was reversed in a specially called meeting Friday immediately before the Delegate Assembly? The vote of the Executive Board on Monday was 14 in favor and 7 opposed. The vote on Friday was (1) one for acceptance with the balance of the attendees against. This, of course, then went to the Delegates meeting for disapproval of the offer.

There was no legally called meeting during this week to discuss or consider anyone's view. I wonder how much money was spent on legal expenses between that meeting and the meeting on Friday the 4th of April?

What is interesting to me is that some of us with insight into the inner workings, knew what was going on but were unable to convince a majority or the delegates so that settlement might have occurred several months ago.

Also, I find it interesting to see another item on the Blog suggesting that the unit owners buy the recreation facilities from the current owner. What they may not have realized is that these facilities were offered to the residents many years ago and the Residents declined. Several years ago this subject was approached again but it was determined that for several reasons the sale could not happen. The first was that the property was not for sale. It had been owned for several years and was nearly, if not completely depreciated. If sold a high percent of the sales dollars would go to pay taxes making it a very impractical sale, from the current owners point of view.

Also in one of the Blog comments there was mention of doing something at the end of the lease. This lease is for, I believe 22 years and began in 2000. This means that someone has the very large job of drafting a renewal lease and presenting it to the Delegate Assembly for approval. This will be a very large task. Of course it need not be completed until 2021 but perhaps it is not too early to begin developing a list of items that need changing. This should be a list that all the future UCO officers have access to so they can add or subtract items as they consider them. Then in 2020 a committee can be formed and start working on the actual draft of the new lease proposal.

Bob Marshall

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Seacrest Lot Behind Bedford

Larry, Since you say Seacrest pays for the property where they park equipment behind Bedford, would you happen to know how much they pay UCO ? MIke